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veto threat for the bipartisan infrastructure bill that he has just encouraged the senate to sign. because it had to be held hostage to this bigger tax and spend bill, the human infrastructure bill 3.45 trillion. so now, cooler heads have prevailed and democrats are looking at $1.2 trillion. it has already made it through the senate. the bottleneck it got through and if the house can approve it, they have got 1.2 trillion in spending. so it seems very unlikely to me that in the long run and by that i mean in the next few days, democrats are actually going to pass up the opportunity to put into law $1.2 trillion in new spending. >> bret: but, juan, that would be a loss for the progressive side. the progressive caucus. the bernie sanders, all the folks who say once you do that you lose the leverage on the big thing and they really want the big thing. right, so far the problem is

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