they are trying to present surrender as courageous. some act of courage. and i don't think the american people are buying it. >> bret: there was a hunger, ari, to get troops out. but how we got them out and what we did to get them out was the key part. there is some amazing video today coming out of afghanistan of women, mothers handing over their children over the fence to try to get them into the airport even though they know they can't get there we didn't hear that and there is some of that video right now. we didn't hear that empathy, that emotion, at least not yet from president biden. >> and this is where he says that chaos was inevitable and he was clear-eyed about the chaos. bret, he wasn't clear -- eyed he was two faced. he said the confidence in the afghani military. he said they were strong. 300,000. best equipment, best trained. why didn't he say at that time no, this will be chaotic. he didn't level with the
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