seconds. >> it's a modest force for all of that seems to me to be a prudent decision and how you are going to secure the american people. >> bret: just a few seconds. do you think the trump administration would do something different in exiting this than the biden administration has done? >> well, i'm not even convinced that president trump would eventually have exited even though it obviously was part of his campaign. i mean, i can't do anything but speculate about that. i don't know for sure. listen, i do know when made the decision to leave, bret it, should have been a lot of other issues on the table, what are we going to do to prevent the taliban from taking over. because you can't convince me that president biden has any interest in the taliban running afghanistan with all the geopolitical significance that has in dealing with our adversaries and our allies, certainly. that's not on his agenda. so what was the it process how too we prevent that from happening?