of families that have been separated. people talk about separation of the border come up with you who went to jail for date bags of marijuana. this is an issue that's plaguing the democratic party because if somebody in the party or on the republican side is to come up with a commercial and show all the people the impact. >> bret: the president on the stop in the campaign talks about it. the changes in the black community, they're people like bob johnson, the bt founder who said there's an opportunity there. is that real? can the trump campaign move african-american voters? >> absolutely, every african-american -- they voted for democrats 90% of the time. what has i got many of us, on employment, footsteps, and jail time >> bret: you believe it's reality? >> i believe it reality, and being the most impactful