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national average for gallon of regular is $2.85, up 80 cents from a year ago. south carolina republican gram g lindsey graham is considering a gasoline tax and it would provide alternative energy sources. graham's idea which he insists is not a straight gasoline tax would add 15 cents to each gallon of gas. the goal: reduce consumption and greenhouse gas emission. the 15 cent fee would by a complicated formula fall as the pollution generated by industry and utilities also fell. he says it's better than the new regulation by the environmental protection agency or across-the-board taxes on carbon. opponents call it a raw deal for recession-battered consumers. >> the government action that raises the price. it's tax no matter what it's called. it will hurt consumers and that's the last thing we need in a struggling economy. people are struggling to make ends meet. >> reporter: the idea turned the gas tax debate on its head. oil and gas industry long opposed higher gasoline taxes is warming to graham's plan. why? the industry sees it as a potentially less costly alternative to taxes applied directly to oil and gas production. >> some in the industries might support this because they think it would save off something more onerous. >> reporter: environmentalists who longer advocated this now oppose it. they want direct taxes on carbon-base pollution. >> the key is to have limits on carbon pollution that drive down emissions over time. that invest in clean energy technologies and energy efficiency that breaks our dependence on foreign oil. >> reporter: the white house opposes any new gasoline tax but said it will continue working with graham on alternatives. also on the tax front, the first family's 2009 returns show they made $5.5 million. and paid $1.8 million in federal taxes. they gave $329,000 to charities. how is the president making that money? two best selling books "dreams for my father" and "audacity of president" sold better as president than when he was candidate. the salary for last year was prorated because his presidency began january 20. >> bret: major garrett live on the north lawn. thank you. on tonight's edition of it's all your money, why many people are not paying any income taxes and many others are paying a lot. chief washington correspondent jim angle reports on the two extremes of the tax code. >> reporter: about 67 million americans, almost half the nation's wage earners will pay no income taxes at all this year, in part because the wealthy are paying a bigger share of total u.s. taxes. >> a little-known secret since the bush tax cuts the share of income tax paid by the wealthy increased. from 80% of all income taxes paid by the top 20% to now 86%. >> reporter: by all sorts of measures, wealthier taxpayers are shouldering more than the bottom percent. >> they earn 37% of the income but pay 60% of all the federal income taxes. the bottom 50% of earners earn about 12% of all the income but pay 3% of all the taxes. >> meeting the top 50% pay a record 97% of income taxes. wage earners below $50,000 in income can easily escape income taxes with standard deductions and tax credits like those for children or the working poor. while that makes the tax system more progressive than it's ever been, some analysts see a risk in that. >> it democratically dangerous to have a country where a majority can vote for policies that just the tax minority. that's the situation we're coming close to. >> as a matter of civics, folks ought to pay something or else they think government is free or they vote for everything. >> reporter: liberal analysts say those who don't pay income taxes pay social security and medicare taxes, though they get something in return for that and say all americans are concerned about deficit spending whether they pay income taxes or not. >> i don't think polling data supports the idea that these people say gee, i'm in favor of run-away spending because i don't have a higher income tax. >> it doesn't bother me that people don't pay income tax when they don't have income. it bothers me more that the richest 400 americans in the country from 2001 to 2007 doubled the income and the tax rate went down. >> reporter: in one vote, 69% of americans chose 20% of the maximum tax rate anyone should pay. the maximum today is already 35%. and under president obama's plan, it will go to almost 40%. so the tolerance for higher taxes appears to be fairly low, even among those who don't pay any. bret? >> bret: familiar battle. thanks. china trimmed the holding of the treasury debt by 1.3% in february, the fourth consecutive decline. china remains the largest foreign holder of american debt but there are concerns that the reductions there could force the u.s. government to pay higher interest rates. finance soaring budget deficits -- to finance soaring budget deficits. well, that is just the kind of information that has many tax protesters livid on this, tax day. in america's election headquarters tonight, chief political correspondent carl cameron on the huge tea party rally here in washington. >> reporter: today's income tax deadline brought several thousands tea partiers to the street of the nation's capit capitol. >> as we all want one simple thing from our government. we would like to be left alone. >> reporter: now a year old, the tea party movement receives advice from two principle political action committees. freedom works run by former house republican leader dick army and the free market operated group known as americans for prosperity. the single biggest faction is the tea party patriots who specialize in new group development and have more than 1,500 groups nationwide. the tea party express bus tour holds demonstrations nationwide and was created by a conservative pack in california. the tea party nation holds grassroots conventions with workshops on political activism. and for online social networking, many tea parties adopt goooh.com, get out of our house. the factions feud over message and associating with political professionals. dick army says there is no single leader but there will be a unifying agenda. >> if you love liberty, if you want fiscal responsibility, if you will behave yourself with the way you conduct the nation's business, we'd like to have you accept our contract from america. >> reporter: rallies occurred nationwide. d.c. marked the end of a 23-state tea party express tour targeting vulnerable democrats. they released a target list for defeat in november, including blanche lincoln, harry reid and arlen specter and nine house members who backed healthcare reform at the obama agenda. anti-tea party counterprotesters with a banter touting obama tax cut talked to the crowd. >> i hope you learn something. >> reporter: recent weeks they urged disruption with imposters acting out to embarrass the movement. >> our message will not be dill luted or discredited -- diluted or discredited. the message is we the people are taking our government back and taking our country back. >> reporter: several thousand tea party protesters came. some from as far away as washington state. there were only several dozen counterprotesters, pro-obama demonstrators. lots of insults traded. some cursing went on. but as far as we can tell, no reports of arrests and no reports of violence from the police. bret? >> bret: carl cameron live at the national mall. thanks. fascinating numbers out of the florida senate race tonight. former state speaker house speaker marco rubio has opened up a 23-point lead over governor charlie crist in the republican primary. new quinnipiac university poll shows if krist ran as an independent he'd beat rubio and congressman meek. so far, charlie crist publicly discouraged talk he might take that optiooption. this is a fox news alert. the justice department says tonight it is reviewing a federal judge's ruling that the national day of prayer is unconstitutional. district court judge barbara crab agreed today with the argument by the freedom from religion foundation, wisconsin-based group of atheists and agnostics. the organization claims the day violates the separation of church and state. the national day of prayer was established by congress in 1952. we'll keep an eye on the story. tea partiers who have suffered through media smackdowns are getting the last laugh. that's later in the grapevine. we will tell you why this could effect your upcoming overseas flight. and president obama tries to convince americans that the space program is not going up in smoke. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. >> bret: the senate passed a bill to restore unemployment benefits if for people out of work for a couple of months. james rosen is following this story as well as disappointing jobs numbers and joins me live. >> good evening. the number of americans filing their first claims for jobless benefits grew by 24,000 last week. to 484,000. this is as the senate voted minutes ago to approve an emergency extension of those benefits. >> already this month, over 200,000 americans have lost their benefits. another 30,000 lose it every day until we pass extension. >> reporter: the republicans warned against saddling future generations with mounting debt. >> in my lifetime, we're not going to pay back this month. >> as drafted, measurable extension through early june and will restore payments to those whose benefits expired on april 5. but the majority brushed aside the g.o.p. amendments to offset the $18 billion measure with spending cuts elsewhere. >> this is the worst recession since the great depression and doing that would put more people out of work. >> reporter: claiclaims for unemployment rose with claims that they are finding it hard to cope. >> i understand coming with a major extension on all the accounts. pass 99 weeks from the house that may reach us as soon as a week or two from now. >> the measure that just passed the senate tonight now moves to the house, which is expected to tackle the measure late tonight. that would allow lawmakers to head home to districts tomorrow morning. >> bret: they love to do that. james, thanks. >> okay. >> bret: industrial production edged up one-tenth of a percentage point last month. that was less than expected. foreclosures have hit record numbers in the first three months of the year. private firm says the number of homes taken over by banks jumped 35% compared to a year ago. those facing foreclosure are up 16%. dow's hot streak continued today, gaining 21.5. the s&p 500 picked up a point and the nasdaq finished ahead 11. president obama today tried to convince workers in the space industry that his new plan for nasa will not lead to the surrender of american space supremacy. senior correspondent brian wilson has the story from the kennedy space center in florida. >> table nation should commit itself to achieving the goal before the decade is out of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth. >> reporter: to the moon we went, as j.f.k. promised, not because it was easy, but because it was hard. now the space program that gave us mercury, apollo, gemini is at a crossroads. shuttle program is coming to a close. follow on constellation program that was supposed to take to us the moon and mars canceled. so today, at the kennedy space center, president obama stood before an audience wanting to hear a clearly stated vision for the future. >> what we are looking for is not continue on the same path. we want to leap into the future. we want major breakthroughs. nobody is more committed to manned space flight, human exploration of space, than i am. we have to do it in a smart way. >> reporter: to visit asteroids and eventually land on mars by 2035 or so, the president believes nasa should begin development on heavy lift rocket technologies, build an orion space capsule for the space station and support space taxis like one he looked at today. in the meantime we hitch expensive ride with russians to the space station. it has supports like buzz aldrin the second man to set foot on the moon. he felt the constellation program was too much been there, done that. >> i think going back to the moon and getting there 40, 50 years after we were there in the last century is not demonstrating american leadership. >> reporter: the first man on the moon, neil armstrong does not like the obama plan. neither does the last man to stand on the moon, gene cerna. >> it adds up to philosophical ideas of what we may or may not do. use the word undefined. everything in the budget is undefined. >> some are left wondering if we are thinking digging up. >> i think we have scaled back the ambitions in human space flight. we have left the stage open now to the competitors to feed the opportunity if they wish. >> reporter: of course, florida is important state if you want to get re-elected so president talked about jobs here pointing out the plan saves more jobs than the old plan did and he is opening up the $40 million in federal funds to soften the blow for the workers that might want to be retrained. bret? >> bret: brian wilson live at the kennedy space center. brian, thanks. well, you can figure out how much you are paying for the nation's space efforts. by going to our tax calculator at foxnews.com/yourmoney. just put in your salary. pick the federal program you want to see and you will see your shashare. then tell us if you think it's worth it. cracking down on illegal immigration will bring a major law enforcement operation gained at human smuggling. how americans hoping to adopt russian children might be affected by an international incident. 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[ male announcer ] so don't blame it on aging. go to isitlowt.com to find out more. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. united nations report released this afternoon blames inadequate security for 2007 assassination of pakistan prime minister benazir bhutto. it says bhutto's death could have been prevented if adequate measures had been taken and it also says the united nations investigation was severely hampered by pakistani intelligence agencies and government officials. an ash cloud from volcano in iceland halted air traffic across much of europe tonight. smoke and ash plume has risen 36,000 feet. all five of london's major airports are shut down. some u.s. flights bound for europe have been delayed or canceled. the deposed president of kyrgyzstan left the country for neighboring kazakhstan. he tried to rally supporters in the south but was hustled off the stage when gunfire erupted. today, the former defense minister there was reportedly arrested by the interim government. there are conflicting reports tonight about whether the adoptions of russian children by american parents have been halted. correspondent dana lewis tells us what is behind the confusi confusion. >> reporter: for russian authorities the case of 7-year-old is the last straw in string of child abuse cases involving americans adopting russian children. they callous it a callous, shocking return to sender. little boy adopted by torrey ann hanson of tennessee sent back to russia last week. his mother didn't want him anymore. hanson is now under investigation by u.s. authorities. she sent a note indicated she felt the boy was psychotic and that she had been misled by russians about his character when she adopted him eight months ago. she claimed he threatened to burn the house down. today, the russian foreign ministry spok spokesman stated until a u.s. state department delegation, due in moscow next week, signs an agreement guaranteeing better protection of russian children adoptions are suspended. >> the adoption of russian children by russian citizens now suspended will be possible in the future only if such an agreement is reached. >> reporter: essentially, the russians are asking for a way of monitoring russian children, even after they become american citizens and are living stateside. difficult to do, legally complicated. today, the state department seemed caught off-guard by the announcement of a freeze. >> we are not aware of any change in policy. we are seeking that clarification through the embassy. most importantly we want to have the discussion with authorities. >> reporter: with estimated 700,000 russian children in orphanages, critics say lengthy suspension of adoptions may do more harm than good. conditions are harsh in orphanages in russia and americans adopted 50,000 russian kids since 1992. most of them have happy endings say american officials. >> there are currently 232 u.s. families adopting 281 russian children. a u.s. state department source told me today we thought the russians might only suspend adoptions which have not yet started. the source added it's terribly hard on american families and russian children now thrown in limbo. in moscow, fox news. >> bret: great britain taking a page from the political play book with today's first ever televised election debate. john craig of the sister network sky news is live in manchester, england, to tell us how it went. good evening, john. >> reporter: bret, it's 50 years since the first american u.s. presidential debate between kennedy and nixon. well, tonight here in manchester in northern england, for the first time in a british general election, the leaders of the three main political parties debated live on british television. gordon brown took on david cameron, the leader of the conservative party who is ahead in the polls. the big surprise in manchester tonight was the performance of nick cleg, the leader of the third party, the liberal democrat. awe the instant polls suggested that cleg, outsider in the race, no chance of becoming prime minister of the u.k. was the winner of the first debate. there are two more still to come. the questions range from the sleaze and scandal in parliament, immigration, but the biggest clash was on the economy. >> gordon brown is trying to make you believe he can protect health spending and education and police spending. he can't do any of these things, because he has given this country the biggest budget deficit of any developed country in the world. >> to be honest, you cannot afford to take money out of the economy now, because you will put jobs at risk, businesses at risk and the whole recovery at risk. >> i read your manifest manifes in neither are you coming clean with anything. you haven't got any figures in the manifesto. >> reporter: this is the first of three clashes on tv. the other two are elsewhere in england one hosted by sky news and another by the british broadcasting corporation. they were cautious tonight and perhaps there will be more fireworks in a we can's time. >> bret: john craig live in manchester. thank you. debate over global warming goes on but the hockey stick has taken another shot. we will explain. people who take shots at tea party shots might be surprised about the new number of education level and income. that's next in grapevine. announcer: naturals from purina cat chow with whole grains, real chicken and salmon and the goodness of leafy greens. you live well. you eat right. help your cat do the same. naturals from purina cat chow. it says that when you buy whoa grand caravan,? dodge will give you 60 days to decide if you want to keep it. that's ridiculous. look at it. it's got seating for up to seven, a smooth v6 engine and a five star government crash test rating. why would you need 60 days, really, who is that indecisive? the dodge "you won't need 60 days to decide but we'll give it to you anyway" event. >> bret: now fresh pickings from the political grailvine. the portrayal of some in the media of tea party supporters as uneducated and unsuccessful does not hold up in a new study. "new york times"/cbs survey finds tea party backers are more educated than the general population. the percentage who attended college is five points higher, eight for graduates and four for post graduate students. supporters are almost as likely as the general general to say the personal situation is very good and more likely to say it's fairly good. tea partiers are more likely to have household incomes in the higher brackets than the average pamly. speaking of numbers, britain leading statistician is the latest to dismiss the so-called "hockey stick graph" used by global warming believers. the financial times reports professor david han says the graph used to represent the recent rise in global temperatures was compiled using inappropriate methods. "it used a particular statistical technique that exaggerated the effect of recent warming." hand's finding are part of a report commissioned by the university of east anglia with advice from the royal statistical society in the climategate e-mail scandal. the report exonerates the climate unit scientists of any deliberate scientific malpractice. hand says errors in the hockey stick graph as well as the u.n. report that predicted himalayan glaciers would disappear by 2035 were isolated incidents. finally, new york's carriage horses are getting a significant increase in work benefits. the city council has just passed new rules requiring larger stalls, blankets and five weeks of vacation per year. animal welfare advocates long wanted to shut down the central park carriage park industry but supporters argue it's important for tourism and that the horses are treated well. now they'll get city mandated time off. hundreds of locals state and federal law enforcement officers hit the streets today in arizona for a huge strike against human smuggling and illegal immigration. correspondent anita vogel is in tucson with details of "operation in plain sight." >> reporter: closed to 1,000 state, federal and local agents conducted surprise raids in phoenix and tucson early thursday morning in what immigration and customs enforcement is calling its largest operation ever to combat human smugglealing. >> we are going to make a difference. not incremental change but a profound difference. if we are really going to secure the border, we have to up our game and try to take on the industry, itself. >> reporter: for more than a decade, the seemingly legitimate arizona shuttle companies openly transported illegal immigrants all over the u.s. federal officials say many of those involved are american citizens. >> we have arrests in mexico and arrests in the united states. we have arrests of u.s. citizens, non-citizens, lawful permanent residents. this is truly transnational. >> reporter: today, dozens of people were arrested on a series of federal charges, vans and other properties seized and taken away. the raids come just as land mark legislation is moving through the arizona legislature, making it a crime to be in the country illegally and requiring local police to determine people's immigration status if they have any reason to suspect they're not here legally. immigrant advocates say the proposal sends a divisive message. >> this is a bill aimed at pushing out immigrants through attrition. wearing people out and grinding them down until they have no choice but to be driven out of the country. >> reporter: the bill has passed both houses of the state legislature and is currently reconciled in the senate. it could reach governor jan brewer's desk by next week. she has yet to comment on the proposal but the staff is quick to point out she has a long history of backing tough immigration measures. bret? >> bret: anita vogel live in tucson tonight. thank you. former senior executive with the national security agency has been charged with giving classified information to a newspaper reporter. thomas drake is accused of sharing it with gorman who works for "wall street journal" owned by fox parent company news corp. gorman was the with the baltimore sun when she wrote articles allegedly based on the classified information. it's of course tax day and the tea partiers were out around the country. we talk about taxes. with the fox all-stars in three minutes. 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[ male announcer ] every business day, bank of america lends nearly $3 billion dollars to individuals, institutions, schools, organizations and businesses in every corner of the economy. ♪ america. growing stronger. every day. ♪ . the top 5% of earners earn 37% of all the income but pay 60% of all the federal income taxes. the bottom 50% of earners earn 12% of the income and pay 3% of the taxes. >> we the people are taking our government back and we're taking our country back. >> when republicans ran this town, they gave tax rates to ceos, as we know, many of the jobs were shipped overseas. struggling families were told no. >> the bush tax cuts did take a lot of different households across the board dropping tax rates. there you hear the senate majority leader earlier in the week. this is tax day. on the mall, here in the nation's capito capitoitacapita partiers hit the mall and they ended a 23-state tea party express bus tour. there you see some of them. the big issues obviously, smaller government, lower taxes, it's a big deal. it's all around the country. this is tax day. bring in our panel. stephen hayes, senior writer for "the weekly standard." juan williams, news analyst for national public radio. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. what about this battle on this day, steve? >> it's interesting to watch the evolution not only evolution of the tea party themselves but how they are treated by the elite. remember when the tea parties first started this was a fringe group and they were angry and a bunch of kooks. then people gradually understood they were our neighbors and in the case of congress their constituents. now you have a "new york times" cbs poll that finds out one in five people are tea party supporters a and they've become so popular that people like nancy pelosi says she is sympathetic to the tea parties and left wing group trying to infiltrate the tea party to discredit them because they've become so powerful. this is a group that existed for a while. we talked about it before. we have seen polling drop. those self-identify as conservetives when asked by pollsters remained constant. the tea partiers are largely this group of people, people who describe themselves as independents and describe themselves as conservative but are not theia-rah -- yea-rah party type. but they're a powerful group and republicans do well to listen to their complaints especially on a day like today. >> bret: juan, rasmussen has a new poll out saying 45% of those polled identify or agree with the ideas of the tea party in general. >> the polling has shown 30% of americans have a favorable view of tea party in general. 25% negative view. most people don't have a strong idea who they are. this is no one person that you identify with the tea party apart from sarah palin, some people say maybe dick army. in terms of an organized effort within the hierarchy, it's not there. it's a grass roots movement. on that score i want to echo something that steve was saying, that this is not something you can easily marginalize as kooks or racist. i say that sitting here as a black man. it's a mistake for the democrats. steve talked about it being a mistake for republicans to marginalize them. it's mistake for democrats to write the group off or try to silence them saying you know, you speak about the worst instincts in america. certainly some of their signs have been offensive, especially the signs describing president obama. but if you are talking about smaller government, lower taxes, if you are talking about not trusting american leadership here in washington and on wall street, the tea party people are speaking for main stream american angst about what is going on in our country. when you see 60 to 80% of americans saying headed in the wrong direction, tea party picked up that passion. the "new york times" poll, though, does suggest the folks are richer than most. better educated than most. more white male than most and more republican. so i think that steve is on to something when he says maybe they're diseffected from the republican party and looking for some new outlet. >> bret: you say the democrats are making an outreach, but is there any hope to get tea partiers to sign on to democratic -- >> i said the democrats will be making a mistake to marginalize them. >> bret: yeah. >> you're right. if there was some way, but it's hard because these are people who i think identify with republicans in some ways and identify as outsiders at a time when president obama and the democrats run washington. >> bret: charles? >> i think the liberal outreach has about as much chance of success as obama's outreach to iran. i'm not sure it will happen anytime soon. because these people, what is so interesting about them, it's so idea driven. it's not driven, it's not caricature of the press had it as diseffected, the poor, the losers, successful racist, ignorant, uneducated white. which is what you heard all of last year. when it wasn't ignored. it turns out that the middle class likely above the mean in education and income, and but they represent a philosophy. it's libertarian. it's against high taxes, against intrusiveness of government and in a larger sense it's kind of a constitutionalist idea. it's the notion of liberty and expansion of government since liberals have taken over in the senate and white house, has pushed the taxes higher, the reach, and the power and the extent of government. it's betrayal of betrayal of the american social contract. these people oppose america becoming a social democracy like europe, and they like the traditional idea of the more independent and less government coddling and cradling of the population. >> i think you are overstating the case, charles. these are people, remember they are up there in age. the concern when it comes to it is healthcare -- >> bret: you can't paint them with a broad brush. >> over 65 in the "new york times" poll. >> but look at it the crowds -- >> they are an older whiter group and they think of taxes and medicare and they the healthcare plan is going to cut my benefits and i think there is a strong sense of self-interest. not just principle here. there is nothing wrong with self-interest. >> i'm saying that the idea of constitutionalism is not a rousing one that you expect but you see it in the signs and the features and all of the ways in which they explained to themselves. that in and of itself is interesting. rather novel. >> bret: the underlying expansion of government, concern about the debt and taxes eventually will have to go up to cover it all is what is -- >> absolutely, man. they see and it goes to charles' point. they want to return to constitutional republic. they want to see the america they grew up with, the one they knew and love and principles entl ss enshrined fre constitution is disappearing. >> bret: one thing, your tax dollars are going toward is the space program. up next, president tries to sell a new space plan. anncr vo: ...call emergency services... anncr vo: ...collect accident information. anncr vo: or just watch some fun videos. anncr vo: it's so easy, a caveman can do it. caveman: unbelievable... caveman: where's my coat? it was suede with the fringe. vo: download the glovebox app free at geico.com. nobody is more committed to manned space flight, to human explore ration of -- exploration of space than i am. but we've got to do it in a smart way. and we can't just keep on doing the same old things that we've been doing and thinking that somehow is going to get us where we want to go. >> everything in that budget is undefined. there is no focus. you are not going to get in space in three years or build a manned spacecraft. tough infrastructure in mission control, simulators, the training. it doesn't make sense to me. >> bret: president obama at the kennedy space center announcing increase in the nasa budget but also saying the constellation program in place will be canceled. to do that, that costs $2 billion. where are we in the space program? and what the president is talking about? we're back with the panel. charles? >> we are seeing the abolition of the manned space program. when neil armstrong speaks out, that is an event. the most self-afacing american hero in our history. he could have been lindbergh and he became j.d. salinger and now he speaks out in an open letter together with sernon, the last guy that walked on the moon and james level the commander of apollo 13 and say this is essentially the end of man in space and it turns nasa into r&d agency for pie in the sky ideas like having humans on asteroids and ends the role as the agency that get us into space and lower in orbit and back. obama spoke about we have done the moon so we are going to do ast stroyeds and mar -- asteroids and mars. this is pie in the sky. on what rocket with what space capsule and with what simulators and training program? there is nothing here of substance. and when kennedy committed us in this decade, as he said, he meant within the presidency he intended to be, he expected he would be president until january 1969. obama is talking about 2025, 2030. all of this is total speculation. what it does is it ends our human dominance in space, which we had for 50 years and we had no way to get into earth. we have to hitch a ride on russians who are charging us extraordinary rates and are only going to increase that. >> bret: we should point out that astronaut buzz aldrin is supportive of president obama's plan. here is what neil armstrong said, juan, in the letter. "it appears we will have wasted the current $10 billion plus in constellation and equally lost the many years required to recreate the equivalent of what we will have discarded." say tag the constellation program would take them to the moon and then onto mars. what do you think? >> i think that buzz aldrin is right. we have been to the moon. 40 years ago i guess or longer that we have been to the moon. i don't know going to the moon is a priority in terms of our spending. today being tax day. what are we spending tax dollars on? the obama program is much more focussed on allowing private enterprise and putting nasa in a position to facilitate private enterprise making use of space and going to places where there will be a return for american people. that is a smart move and the direction the space program needs to go in. it's not a matter of seeding anything to -- ceding anything to the russians or the chinese. not at all. it's about efficient use of our resources to make the best use of trying to go in to space and find out exactly why we're there. not just go there for the sake of yes, we're back on the moon! i don't know that that is worth it at this point. it is worth it if you say there is a reason we're on asteroids or taking people in space or able to launch specific satellites that help us with the economic growth. >> bret: steve? >> i am the hardcore libertarian. i'm sympathetic to the argument that juan makes. the problem with what the president has done as he emphasizes a transition, partial transition to more private use, private space flight, what he has done is increased the budget. the budget doesn't go down. if you talk of privatization you need the other side of that, less spending on this. over a decade, spend $200 billion on nasa. there are things nasa does well that are important. there are a lot of things that they do well that are not important. in time, it won't happen. in time, it won't happen but under obama administration it would be nice if we had a t toptop bottom review of what nasa does and functions are and privatize things they could do better. >> bret: libertarian point of view, $2 billion to shut down constellation? we have spent money on the program. >> but would you spend another 50 on a program overbudget and wasn't working the way it should have been working? >> the private stuff is complete speculation. we're ceding certainty of access into space. we are not going to have it. russians will have it. the chinese will have it. we spend tens of billions on the space station and spend three decades in constructing it. we're not going to have any way to get there. it's a russian station and chinese station and we'll look up in a decade and it will be a lunar space on the moon and not going to be americans on it. >> bret: that's it for the panel. stay tuned for the reaction tax filers had to preparing their taxes online. . with 4g from sprint, i can download files up to 10x fasterhan 3g... outside. i n stream the movie "airplane" to my cell phone... at the airport. i can have a crystal-clear videoconference with my clients... ...muffin basket or something... ...while working offsite, or share five high-speed connections for online gaming... while enjoying the great outdoors. 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