">> the president do that. he did what he was accused of. he did it in public. remember, he did know mike went out after the transcript was released and he did it again. "i'm glad they went after biden and i wish china would too." that part is not in debate. the matter of debate is, should he be removed from office for doing it? the overwhelming number of americans disapprove of what he did, but are there 20 republicans in the senate who had hoped to remove him for it? no. is there even one republican in the house who would vote to remove him for it? i don't think so. >> harris: you are looking at the real clear politics pulling today, and you are seeing a differential of plus six on the side of impeach and remove. you bring up such a good point, because what we looked at in the early polling was impeachment. people were kind of cloudy, maybe on that meant. some people thought it meant