never had any idea that any connection to joe biden." >> he prefaced that statement, too. he said, "i was getting all sorts of mixed messages." he went straight to the source would call the president. center, go ahead. >> i want to bring a dana perino. juan williams also with us. danna, secretary of state mike pompeo was mention of the top adam schiff. said the knowledge of the scheme was far and wide and included, among others, secretary pompeo. the secretary of state was asked about this a short time ago. ask if he should recuse himself. he said he had not seen or heard the testimony, but he said, "i'm not going to recuse myself from this. i know precisely what american policy was with respect to ukraine. i was working on and i'm incredibly proud of what we have accomplished." so we have also seen response from secretary of state. >> yes, he's in brussels, the press corps following him they are decided they would have to ask him about this. it's pretty interesting how the federal government -- i'm sorry, the executive branch, is trying to play this.