checking boxes. >> or derek carr. >> harris: oh, yeah. garrotte below. a lot of good quarterbacks in the nfl right now. so, when he said checking boxes, she did a check to go boxes for biden. i just question whether or not he thought it might have been a better idea to make them about merit. he said he wanted a woman, it would be a woman that he chose, and it would be a person of color. i mean, they did check off some boxes. it is unfortunate that that was the benchmark only. >> exactly. >> harris, you said she needs to become like the goat, tom brady, the greatest of all time. unfortunately for the vice president, i don't think that is going to happen. you might disagree with me on who it is. >> harris: yeah let's talk about it. >> commercial break, we'll talk about it. all right. we will have more outnumbered in just a moment. ♪ ♪