and your families debt and i want to thank the three of you for ending america's longest war and executing the longest airlifting history. secretary austin camille testified that troops stayed past the deadline. the military would likely have needed reinforcements. i want to make this clear. the choice for president biden wasn't zero troops or 2500 troops. it was zero troops or potentially many more troops. general milley briefly, would you agree that at some point more than 2500 folks would have been needed as the taliban engaged in offensive strikes? >> reasonable prospect we would've had to increase forces past 2500 given that the taliban were very likely going to start attacking us. there is a range of forces. we are talking about 2500 or