>> to the border community is that a big issue. >> you tell me. >> i'm not aware of pregnant women being a big issue to people of concern at the border. what i will note for you, peter, is as i said earlier, there is a process if people cannot be expelled under title 42, for a range of reasons, some of that is because countries they came from or other countries including mexico may not be accepting families with children under the age of 7. they are placed in removal proceedings. those removal proceedings require them to either go to a detention facility or require them to go -- get a notice to appear and including providing their biometric data and otherwise so that they can be -- we ken sure we know where they are and we ken sure we know when they are going to come back. so, that's what the process is. if there is a big outrage about pregnant women, i'm not tracking it. >> steve: the issue is not about pregnant women. the issue is the border open or is the border close? because my understanding a lot of it is happening on this side of the border. >> i think you know the answer to that question i just conveyed