the ground with the taliban. we asked the president then to basically, i guess, stretch the truth about whether or not they were moving and taking that country over quickly. he has told us previously that he was not aware that afghanistan was being taken that quickly. so why would he need somebody not to tell the truth of what was going on on the ground, if in fact he didn't know the taliban were on the move so quickly? >> you make a good point. >> harris: do you see what i'm saying? literally, we were losing afghanistan to the taliban. now he's saying he knew it and wanted help to help what was going on on the ground. that's what i hear you communicate. >> exactly. rick grenell said in june, there was a report in june that the taliban was on the move. we know that in july he did know they were taking over. you raise an interesting.on that phone call. if he didn't know, why was he saying whether it was true or not. he did know. that's the answer.