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courts, it is an abuse of power. it is your abuse of power. you are doing precisely what you're criticizing the president for doing. we have a third branch that deals with conflicts of the other two branches. and what comes out of there and what you do with it is the very definition of legitimacy. >> let's unpack what you have been talking about. first of all, the mcdonald case, how was i decided? was that split court, where we really torn about that? >> yes, it came out unanimous, so did other the next cases that i cited my testimony that refute these criminal theories. >> one of the things that you said also, and i think it can be summed up, i use it as a layma layman's language is facts don't matter, that's what i've heard a lot of, the fact said this, the facts disputed this, but if this, if that, it rises to an impeachment level. and that was what you were saying that crimes have meanings. and i think that this is the concern that i have.

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