of coverage because eddie gallagher and pete hegseth, that's where the president started to know about the case. you have to consider that in all of this, this is someone he became attached to because they were a tv person, and i'm not particularly comfortable with out myself to have risen to the level of this now front page news of "the washington post" and all of that. >> melissa: but kennedy let me ask you, whether they are advocating for victims or -- that's kind of the whole thing. you bring stories up that you are being overlooked and someone needs to look at this as a travesty of justice, that's a lot of the media's job. >> kennedy: sometimes we have hyper focus on things. we pay so much attention to this and you have to stand back and say, where does this get us? how does it make us better and how does it make it better for