are and i we are going to do with those." i just want to get, if i can, just for a minute, back to this question about ukrainian -- that fiona was talking about, whether ukraine was involved, interferen or not. we just heard and to make it mccarthy see there were two theories, and one was completely debunked. that they hacked into the dnc computers. a few that this company, an american company named crowd strike, covered up the fact that it was the ukrainians who act and said it was the russians. and even that the dnc server is now in ukraine. and that has been largely debunked, as andy said, part of the problem however is that at the specific point on the specific reference that president trump made in his phone call in july 25th with zelensky. he wasn't talking about other allegations, which i'm going to get her in a second. he was talking specifically --