>> if they are not going to have these depositions in public for the entire country to watch in real time, at least release the transcripts. if they're not going to do that, to your question, absolutely, let's have this testimony out in front of the american public. >> melissa: lisa? >> lisa: for me, the big picture remains the same in the sense of the doj criminal investigation took a look at the call and didn't find any criminal wrongdoing with it. additionally, it has not been established that the ukrainians were aware any money was being withheld. so it's hard to imagine that was being leveraged. so those things remain the same. there's been reports of the southern district of new york is potentially looking to giuliani for violations, which strikes me is political. there's only been seven criminal affair cases from 1966 to 2015 in total, and then you have prosecutors go after paul manafort, michael flynn, and potentially rudy giuliani on a fair violations when there are so many people in washington, d.c., that we could be completely guilty of blabbing