>> lisa: which i think is the hope of the white house, as well. especially head of the 2020 election. here point -- >> melissa: in court for a long period of time? i don't know that that's the hope of the white house. you have this sort of thing that keeps going, people leak things -- >> marie: it'll run the clock out. >> lisa: to run the clock out. it's inevitable, this would lead up to the election. i think that's what the democrats want. to your point, impeachment is political. in nature. we are seeing a messaging war between the white house and democrats. president trump and his administration, this is the more as well-articulated part of that we've seen so far from the white house. this is the case the admission she needs to make. in regard to transparency, you got the white house and president trump to classifying the call with zelensky, put that up to the public. the doj put out the whistleblower complaint and the response to it, as well. so that's transparency. you can track about, what we've seen from house documents,