clash is ron desantis. you watch him spar with the press 60 minutes on down. i think the more he goes into line live at the serial is the better he'll be. >> is a great moment for ron desantis he has stumbled in these early moments since his campaign announcement lesson three months ago. i think he is the one people are going to attack the most. everybody wants to take on trump by being number two. they're all going to be desantis seeking missile how he equips himself as he keeps his cool if he is substantive and looks unbothered by peoples personal attacks on him he will shine. it's also eight moment you cannot look like the question bothered you. you have to sort of engage the audience remember people would say to me brian how during the campaign altering the white house to jupiter chris cuomo and i didn't even pay attention to that anger. people are your audience i want to say that to our candidates in this debate. the people are your audience but ultimately must have the connective tissue them don't