hampshire. but really the focus was on the future of the country, their concerns about that, foreign policy, the economy. so that's where the people in this town hall wanted the conversation to be. and it's a function of, you know, speaking to iowa voters in this situation. next week we'll talk to new hampshire voters when we get out there. and it's just step one along the process. but that's where the tenor was that night, and that's where with he was which i thought was very interesting. howard: yeah. i think it's important to note as you did that this is not an interview where you might go back on the same question three or four times so you had to make time for questions asked by the iowa audience. i know you were busy at that particular hour, but nikki haley and ron desantis spent two hours trashing each other, calling each other liars on. >> cnn. they barely mentioned trump, and when they were asked about the former -- former president, they stuck to policy. even insight into why even at this late date, one day to go,