howard: and yet the media goes crazy about this. >> absolutely. it's almost like the caucus is a poll where people show up and weigh in. it's a small vivid of -- sliver of the population of iowa that will have some sort of deciding element for the whole process of the nomination along the way, howie. howard: since you mentioned "the des moines register" poll, second place went to 234eubg key haley with to %. d can 20%. at your town hall donald trump really seemed to soften his e rhetoric when asked about political violent or being a dick around toy -- dictator. did that surprise you. >> it kind of did, howie, and when i look back on it,ty -- i think that's the most important takeaway. we pressed him on whether it would be bedlam, whether it would all be about grievance and retribution, all of these issues. and in each one of those cases, and in particular if i thought in his abortion answer which i know ben mentioned a little while ago on your program, it is
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