from it, worried about what impact it would have prettily, you know, a worry that's shared by a lot of republicans. and i think that whoo to -- what you saw was him trying to navigate this weird environment which is one where i don't think he's settled on what he's doing to -- going to say yet. and there are a lot of pro-life people who voted for him in 2020 who this time around may need some more reassurance from him going forward that they're not going to be left aside. howard: right. but even now some of the pro-life groups have made their peace. we happen to have the sound bite on this very topic talking, when the former president was asked about the end of roe v. wade, which he took credit for, obviously, by appointing three scotus justices. let's take a look. >> you have to win elections, you know, if you talk five or six weeks, a lot of women don't know they're pregnant in fife or six weeks. howard: and that's the clear reference to ron desantis