whatever it is that you want to talk about. look, i think jen psaki does a great job for the president, but a lot of this, howie, it comes from the if top. this is president biden's decision. he has to decide how he wants to interact with the press corps. i think he should do it more. i think longer form interviews would probably be a good idea as well. i think the shouted questions doesn't work as well for him. howard: the sound bite age that we live in. >> yeah, that's true. howard: biden has been caught on hot mics before. does he not know or care whether he's cursing or insulting somebody? >> well, it's interesting you bring that up, because i think a lot of democrats thought that him getting picked up on a hot mic saying that about obamacare thought of him as a great hero, right? that was something they thought, yeah, it is a big f-ing deal, right in they were all so excited about it. and there was this article in politico this week that said this exchange with peter doocy and his newfound fighting with