success, extraordinary success to quote the president himself. when you gaslight that hard even journalists who might lead to the left at some point say enough, we can't put lipstick on this pig and sugarcoat this and they didn't for a period maybe two or three weeks it was really brutal coverage and i think that was the start of a really significantly downward trajectory for this president, his approval ratings from which he still has not recovered. howard: julian, some pundits at the time said the american people support the withdrawal, but of course they did withdraw -- support the way the withdraw happened with the bombing at the airport and so forth, does it trouble you that basically you turn and see basically nothing about the situation in afghanistan now? >> yeah except if you turn on fox news channel we have covered in the news division what's going on through this day. we have continued to cover the humanitarian crisis confronting afghans and all kinds of