want you to root for their team. but that's not what journalism is about, and journalism often means that you're going to be on any given day, any given hour unpopular with this group or that group or this faction because you're not siding with their view of the world. >> that's right. i mean, all you have to do is look at my twitter feed -- [laughter] it says i'm in the tank for trump and then i'm so anti-trump -- howard: right. sometimes on the same segment. >> i say bob, meet sally, sally, meet bob, i'm going to cover the news. my biggest job is to try to stop the bad pucks from getting through. and with social media and online presence, people getting information from a lot of different places, there are a lot of bad pucks. and so we have a big job to do, and is we take it seriously every day. howard: right. i just think there is this sort of refrain now particularly among more activist journalists, maybe others, that if, you know, there's a threat to the country and if you don't rise -- which