117,000 afghans evacuated and americans evacuated in the last two weeks. it truly -- those relationships and how they are actually depending on the taliban for security and at checkpoints outside the airport, that is really difficult for us to explain to our audience. howie: there is no substitute to having been to afghanistan so many time as you have since 1993. you said it's a national shame that the u.s. will be leaving after the august 31st deadline, so many afghan national behind who helped our war effort over 20 years. talk more about that if you would. >> reporter: well, as you mentioned, i started going to afghanistan in 1993 when i was based in islamabad. my husband was the ap bureau chief in islamabad. we watched as the taliban were formed in 1994, 95 timeframe. we know what it was like during the civil war after the soviets pulled out. we know what happens when there are vacuums in a place like