being the fourth impeachment inquiry which is extraordinary the on its own, but if you're actually going to impeach and have the senate remove, that would literally be an unprecedented act in american history. so you need a sense of the enormity of the gravity that would justify doing it, and doing it within the 12-month window of the campaign that the incumbent president has a significant chance of winning. howard: why is it that the mainstream media consensus, i don't think anybody would dispute this, is that what happened with trump and ukraine is shocking to the conscience? >> well, because they find everything he's done over the past three years pretty much shocking to the conscience, and this is one reason republicans are jaded on this and think there's a huge pretextual element of it. they, democrats have wanted to impeach him from day one, and the immediate. ya -- media was spun up for over two years in a