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howard: fascinating conversation. dana perino, thanks for joining us. >> thank, howie. howard: that's it for us. i'm howard kurtz, i hope you'll subscribe to my podcast at apple i tubes, google play or fox news podcast.com. now, just a personal note, i was here late the other night covering the democratic debate going on the air, but i had another tv going, and it had the washington nationals game. and i was watching at the nats beat the cardinals to get into the world series, and i gotta say, at times the game packed a lot more punch than the three-hour debate. i kept turning off the sound. don't tell anybody. when i moved to d.c., there was no baseball teem. there was no baseball team here for 33 years. the last time there was a washington franchise in the world series, 19 33. you know who threw out the first ball? fdr. i was watching "fox news sunday," and he had a special guest come out. you see teddy roosevelt, one of the four presidents who made the

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