between the president and the president of the ukraine. on the left, though, i would say there seems to be this tension, frenzy, oh, my gosh, you finally got him and i don't think it's seemless, it weakens us at journalists to have the pressure created that we didn't. people did pay attention to hunter biden and there's nothing been found. howie: stories as far back as 2015 but clearly not getting this level. there's been programs msnbc, impeachment is serious and somber thing for the country and susan the white house and allies had some success in shifting the media spotlight from trump to biden but the coverage of impeachment, half a minute, totally overshadowed that? >> no, not necessarily because, okay, it will as it turns to the house, i don't think the biden story will die down, i don't think the trump administration will allow it.