mark: welcome back america, the great guest professor peter wood the president of the national association of scholars. and he's written a tremendous book 1620 a critical response to the 1619 project. i've read this book and i recommend it to you very, very strongly. professor welcome and thank you for coming. >> well thank you so much for having me. >> now you seem very -- concerned about this 1619 project so let's walk through this if we can. what have occurred in 1619 that "the new york times" and the author of the project claim was actually the founding moment of the united states? >> english pirate ship brought 20 some we don't know exact