joe biden. joe biden has been a round a long time here, had to know why his son was paid. >> let me ask you about that we saw liberal so call reporter, who said there was a rule. that bidens had, hunter never told his father. vice president of what kind of business he was involved in. even though later, was in the press, burisma and hunter biden's royal, there no evidence that joe biden actually read the newspaper. it is not conceiv conceivable te biden would not know what his son was up to. >> right. if he were point person to ukraine policy, he was, he would know about burisma. joe biden was responsible for usaidprogram