things law enforcement broke some of the rules because they were so connected with this family. allowing them in an active crime scene -- what do you think about that putting your law enforcement hat on now? >> well, i mean, you look these are going to be cold cases right and they're going to be quite tough boating distinct criminal case it off the table because accused in that instance is paul and, obviously, he's deceased. the civil case survives buster named in caption of that case as is alex murdaugh himself that case is alive other two are cold cases they're tough. i think according to the reporting and you know we're getting into what's true and what's not smith case might have a little more purchase even though it is an older case because there are some allegations floating around that more than one person was involved. and what that means is you're not reliant upon forensics. the difficulty in the satherfelt case everybody at the scene is also deceased. that is maggie, paul, and so if