are taking those weapons -- weapons facing off a tank it is man against tank and ukraines are doing that faceoff. lawrence: sorry to do this -- but we lost two of our colleagues pierre and sasha you had the opportunity to work with them and praying ben continues to fight what can you tell us about them? >> i saw sasha in ukraine and saw how hardworking she was. that was first team i worked with her. but i was with pierre in a lot of places for a lot of years in congo and libya, in iraq, in afghanistan, in sear syria venezuela but pierre was gentle i never saw him lose his cool anywhere. we had a couple of, you know, uh-oh mommies in moments ins i