guinea where they have... we're talking about an island that has hundreds and hundreds of languages and ethnicities. the people have different customs all throughout. that's the thing, it's so diverse. this happens only here. it's a larger story. >> jesse: is this something that they are ashamed of? is it something they accept as a part of their history? >> yes, they accepted. i don't know if there is a shame part or anything like that but everyone is going to tell you. at one point hundreds of years ago or even probably 100 years ago or so. cannibalism does not exist anymore in 2024. >> jesse: do you think if his uncle had swam ashore on that