>> it's like icicles coming down. >> greg: what did you learn from this research, the survey? what disturbed you, what excited you? >> i didn't learn anything i didn't already know because i remember my guidance counselor in college asked me what i wanted out of college and i said i wanted a college degree. and he got kind of mad. he said well, what are you going to do with that? and i said did you go to college to be a guidance counselor? the whole idea is preposterous. a lot of the other temps were high school grads that just got a temp job and they were getting paid by the company to go to college to get a degree and a job. they were already doing. none of it makes any sense. college is for most agrees a piece of paper. it doesn't really teach you anything you need. it just said hey, i jumped through that hoop. so if you're looking for college to get life skills, that's where they don't call it the real