many of us had been talking about the need to take strong action against russia at the early part of the biden administration but it didn't happen, obviously. it will take time. what happened in the past year while the biden administration refused to move, the cronies of putin and putin himself have had the opportunity to do some sanction proofing of their own lives. so even though the white house is determined now to move in on about seven families and putin himself in terms of punishing sanctions. i believe there is still money that they've got squirreled away to protect themselves. i don't think they will be on the streets anytime soon. >> trace: we have found iran, north korea have gotten around the sanctions and there is a way russia will get around them at least to a certain extent as well. great to see you thank you for coming on. >> thank you.