4.5-trillion dollars and not $1.7. it will be 2.8-trillion dollars over 10 years. this intel a fraud. i extend to expose it next friday -- a week from tomorrow. >> sean: what are the odds -- you are friends with joe manchin. i got along with him over the years. don't agree with him on everything. we agree on energy. energy is pivotal to his state of west virginia. i know he didn't like biden's energy balance and see the danger in the debt here. >> joe manchin is a good guy. a west virginia democrat.