gone through. i can't't imagine the pain that both of you are living through and i'm very sorry about that. mark, you met with biden over the weekend, how did that go? >> initially, i wasn't going to meet with him, but then i felt i owed it to mason two at least have some words with him about how i felt, and it didn't go well. he talked a bit more about his own son then he did my son in that didn't sit well with me. >> your son was a hero. i can't imagine the pain i really can't. here in, you said your son had the biggest heart in the world and no parent, and as a parent i think every parent watching right now understands this, no parent should have to bury their sons or daughter, it's not supposed to work that way.