>> granted, it took two days to take control of the airport, we have control of the airport now. >> still a lot of pandemonium outside the airport. >> there is. but no one is being killed right now. god forgive me if i am wrong about that, but no one is being killed right now. >> sean: no one is being killed right now. well, you are wrong about that. people are being killed and beaten and whipped and stabbed at checkpoints. we have reports taliban fighters are blocking many from even getting through. and yet americans are being told to attempt to get there, but they can't be protected. there is no guarantee of safety. now flights are taking off half empty. joe biden doesn't seem to realize the magnitude of what is going on and what led to this mess and how it could have been prevented. take a look. >> what happens now in afghanistan? do you believe the taliban have change? >> no. i believe -- let me put it this way.