nowadays you have that combined with more people wanting to just simply win an argument than arrive at the truth and i think that is really the nucleus of a lot of the issues going on today and again facts are facts henry need to start getting there again. >> reagan let me go to you you deal with facts here at trial lawyer how, is it easy to deal with is there a special word, hearsay in court, i didn't take the bar but open book sometimes and as a lawyer how much do you have to deal with facts versus feelings when you're in trial dealing with cases? because sometimes those cases you have a lot of feelings involved. >> yes, and of course there are feelings involved but you have to look at the facts on the evidence and what case can you make for yourself and unfortunately now people only think about their feelings and there's no rationalizing with people there is no reasoning with people you can to get through because the feelings are literally the only thing that matter you can lay out all of