able to do that. but if we're going to talk about the most important thing we have to do, we have to demonstrate how resolute we are about nato, defending nato, showing that it is indeed a serious and important alliance. and making it clear that the red line of putin crossing to invade nato is not like the fake red line that biden set for ukraine if putin enters nato territory, russian troops, there will be a robust response. >> shannon: fox polling on russia, we have more on that dealing with russia and ukraine. the question was, does what happens in return sha and ukraine in that conflict matter in the u.s.? up 6% of the respondents said yes, 21% said no. what was the u.s. interest there? and why that conflict does or does not matter to us? the country is about three quarters believe it does. >> you look at last century, shannon. twice the united states waited