jerry nadler says you and your lawyers can testify in front of our tonight he. but there are reasons why the white house would not want to do that, right? >> yes. the president has an opportunity now if he wishes to come to testify to see others to testify. but the white house has been blocking people from testifying at the intelligence committee level and the judiciary committee level as well. people like mulvaney are of great interest, the president's acting chief of staff are of great interest to the congress because he was at the center of the deliberations that went on between the president and ukraine as president put pressure on ukraine to investigate his political rival back to the united states. so the white house has been saying no, they cannot, and others can note testify. the white house also didn't want