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steps that strengthen their love for israel. i'm not so sure it works with american jews though. chris: julie, karl talked in the first segment when we were talking about what the president needs to get reelected, one of the things he talked about was college-educated women and republican suburbs. when the president seems to stoke these divisions whether talking about the squad or about jews being disloyal or baltimore congressman elijiah cummings, how does that play in the republican suburbs among college-educated women? >> i think there are some differences in some of those things that he's saying, and i would also throw in policy issues. when you talk about the squad, the strategy from the trump campaign is very clear here, they want to paint the entire democratic party as socialists, as outside the mainstream of what we think about democrats as. and that's in part because they want some of these republicans, independents in the suburbs who really don't like donald trump very much to say, all right, i don't like him, but i'm not

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