don't know. do you have any patients ever told you they love you? >> all of the time well i don't to be the debbie downer on saturday night show -- >> i literally tell people they have cancer. every day -- but i'm like good news -- we've caught it so early that -- we're going to take care of you so then there's a hugging moment and there's a -- they trust you to save their life that is a different kind of love and not a funny kind of love but a visceral love because you're trusted with someone's life which is also not so indifferent if you're dating someone, and you find yourself feeling romanically vulnerable to them and they say i love you that is another state of vulnerabilitity i'm putting myself out there to you imght to spend my life to you and they can reject you and that is very upsetting i mean that can -- kat: sure can. it sure can. [laughter] i've never had anybody at work tell me they love me.