figure of this whole inquiry. the president of the united states stating it is plainly and clearly as he could. second, i do think it's important to understand there were only 14 days that the ukrainians knew that the aid was held up. they learned on august 29, and the 14 day time frame, the 29th of august, there are three key interactions with senior government officials on the president of ukraine. the most important in my judgment was the last one, the bipartisan meeting from the legislative branch. if ever there was a time or zelensky would've brought up the idea that aid was somehow linked to him announcing him an investigation, that would've been the time because senator murphy brought it up himself. still, president zelensky never said in any way that there was aid. that the investigation was linked. that's the key take away. everything else is ambassador sondland surmising what someone