i will call you later. >> that sums it up. >> but literally that evening honoring this anticorruption activist, is that right? >> yes >> yes. >> not just any woman, a woman who is horribly attacked and killed for her efforts, and she was not just killed, you said that she i believe that someone threw acid on her? >> that is correct. >> and i went and i checked during the break, and it turns out she was horribly injured, and it took four months for her to die, is that correct? >> a very painful death. >> why would somebody attack her with acid? there are easier ways to kill people, why did they do it with acid? >> they wanted her out of the way, but the message was that this could happen to you too if you continue her work. >> that's what happens when you go up against corrupt people in the ukraine? >> it is something that can happen. there are other ways of sidelining people. >> do you are a member speaking at that event? >> i do. >> i looked at what you said.