him to be vaccinated he said i have the same immunity you have and all the scientific evidence and my doctor says i don't need it. so i think that will be an interesting lawsuit. because even in the old days when they say oh, well, everybody had a passport, you know, for small pox. do you know what the exception was, if you had visible pox you didn't have to take the vaccine and that was your passport to travel. >> ben: you know, senator, i fear as i know that you are concerned about that we are going to see a permanent pandemic reality in america where all of this is used to essentially have a much more powerful role for government in all of our lives and, you know, if francis collins was to be believed the ability to go in your home and make sure that you are masking up around your kids. is this a situation where there can be steps taken by governors and by the congress to push back against this and ensure that we don't end up in a situation where government has a lot more control over our lives than we would like with this as the