will be able to present the evidence that what i am doing is the thing that governors were empowered to do. that is to keep the people of their safe while at the same time holding the biden administration accountable to follow the laws, the immigration laws passed by the united states congress. >> ben: i know that you are a politician and policy maker you also have the perspective as a leader on what the biden administration, the biden-harris administration actually wants when it comes to the border. do they want this? is this the outcome that they would like to be seeing? because it has to be hurting them politically. >> so, go back in time, ben, during the democrat debates for the presidency when all of the candace were on stage. they all agreed to implement open border policies. so, what we are seeing is what they promised during the democrat debate exactly what they would do. now americans are seeing withce about the damage, the wreckage to the uni the biden