talked about it and i have talked about it the "new york times" as far as can i tell has never written a story about this. once again, we have a major -- i don't want to say cover-up. but i don't understand what is defined as news anymore. it seems to me entirely ideological. the fact that fauci was more worried or as worried about where about whether or not this virus might have been created in a lab or created, modified i should say is a better word. than, you know, than anything else. it's not news to a lot of people on the left. >> brian: i will give you an example. knows more about this than probably any civilian in this country. he stopped by "the washington post." he gets a column in there. and signed by cnn. he should be leading every cnn broadcast as the premier expert. is he buried because they don't want that message. that, to me, is not great journalism to be -- to undermine to understate it just a little bit. alex berenson, thanks so much. >> great pleasure.