this was a regression. it's a very evil ideology because it's cruel. it's mean-spirited and we haven't talked about that. but that's what it is. it won't end if people start identifying it like that. it's stupid, mean spirited ideology antihumanistic. and speak out against it because it has a history throughout the centuries and it doesn't end well. >> pete: you study this and you understand how systems collapse. what is the crucial moment? what is the crucial point? what leads to the beginning of something like what we are seeing? i think it's when the law is a symmetrically applied or not applied at all. see somebody walk out of the store with a bag of goods and doesn't pay doesn't say anything. or go to a car and steal it and you know nothing is going to happen. or you see something like waukesha or the hostage-taking in texas and the media won't