as a result of this climate and i mean it's considered transphobe bic to say these things but it's not backed by science. >> will: freely made decisions of adults is one thing. the manipulation of a child is a whole other thing and how did this end up -- i thought school was about math and science, reading. i thought it was about english. when did it become about changing your jernd. how is this a role that the school has taken on. >> i think activists have been very sneaky. this has been going on for decades. only i would say in the past few years that we have really started to notice it because of the fallout and because we do have children who have now transitioning increasingly younger ages not just about gender but races as i'm sure you know dismantling norms. deconstructing. in the minds of activists is