founding is 1619, not 1776 and retract or eliminate both claims while pretending they were never made, there is little more others can add except to acknowledge what is by now plain for all to see, the purpose of the 6019 project is not to teach history but to propagandize. the true american founding is in 1776. there should be no historical dispute about it. the ideas assembled in that singular year were of such a unique combination and importance in human history, you must play contrarian games to insist otherwise. i suggest to you the truth about 1620 amidst a time of constant historical revisionism is that it represents not just a convenient myth about the nation but something that was essential to our founding. we find in the risk-taking character of the people who crossed the wine dark sea of the atlantic, mindful of the courage it would take navigating a new world filled with enormous